As someone who spent some time in a cult, even though I was on the peripheral, the common denominator in everybody I met was arrogance. Narcissism. These people wanted more than anything to have “The Secret,” the special information that nobody else knew. Most of them were deeply insecure people, even though some of them were successful, the desperate need to have more information than everybody else took precedence over any possibility of logic and reason. Power and control, even when it came to secret knowledge was more valuable to them than truth.
I don’t think I have the answer, I just gave my personal experience based on someone who spent a lot of time with people who eventually spiraled down the QAnon rabbit hole
Sometimes I think they know fully what is about to happen and they are doing everything in their power to subvert the timeline while hedging that they will not be successful. It’s going to be dark days, particularly for the U.S. but if you can stand in your integrity through it and come out the other side the reward is potentially beautiful and liberating for the entire planet.
I guess it’s because Industrial capitalism is structurally cynical and programmed on a scarcity mindset. When you add to that the often “quoted fact” that the carrying capacity of earth is thought to be 1.5 billion and histrionically Armageddon is programmed into the Anthropocene, that people respond much better to simpler stories than complex factual relationships even while their bodies might know better, then you get a recipe for Orwellian sagas.
There is no non painful way through transformation and we are fully in one now. So the cultural babble creates toxic bubbles which reduce much of the social bodies of individuals into nervous system reactions to non-contextual dangers with no actual risk of present attack. The last 70 years of movies, marketing and attention misuse as daily practice has brought western cultures especially the USA to be unable to discern and to quick to react into conflict without awareness. There are other components but those are just a few that are being used to steer hegemonic practice and instill fear and lack of consideration.
I can only agree (while the point was not to answer but just ask questions). I have most of the answers to these questions myself. And you are right scarcity mindset, cynicism, everyone in their mind no one in their bodies, the ANS doing its work trending towars sympathetic addiction, stories layered over stories etc
My heart and nervous system get pretty shredded and scattered by that many “whys”. So I reach out and “respond”. What is the sending going on? Does staying with the trouble of so many kinds, scales, layers and frequencies allow new collective and small group capacity building?
Personally what does that list of whys do with and without you?
Sitting with the discomfort is itself an embodied practice. If the nervous system is activated, it is because of fear and lack of trust in the process. Moving too quickly to solutions is a form of cognitive bypass — the same unconscious habit that created the problem in the first place. The body knows. The question is whether we can stay with what it knows long enough to let something new emerge.
We must face reality and feel the grief (which is continual in these times if your eyes are open) to come into connection with ourselves, with life itself, and therefore to come to know in a very real way what it really takes to do the capacity building you are talking about, and for what purpose. One of those capacities we need to build is the ability to look unflinchingly at the reality of our times and be able to be with the pain without overwhelming our nervous systems. This is the only way we become empowered agents, able to respond to what is actually happening, able to choose our actions, able to connect to purpose, able to ask the question, “who do I want to be given the reality?” Once you know the answers to these questions (and others) and sit with the pain, the next steps reveal themselves. You are transformed in the process.
I see that too. And yet it seems to be so for out for many. The somatization of the process, seeking answers into a larger intelligence and not just our limited and biased cognitive intel. And, as everything is unfolding in perfection, somehow, ignorance and denial are also part of it, despite our desires for it to be different. What a paradox. Makes for a good story though!
As usual, always a delight to find you here Penny!
As someone who spent some time in a cult, even though I was on the peripheral, the common denominator in everybody I met was arrogance. Narcissism. These people wanted more than anything to have “The Secret,” the special information that nobody else knew. Most of them were deeply insecure people, even though some of them were successful, the desperate need to have more information than everybody else took precedence over any possibility of logic and reason. Power and control, even when it came to secret knowledge was more valuable to them than truth.
I personally have answers, I just thought questions were more efficient. I think many people have answers. It seems you do too!
I don’t think I have the answer, I just gave my personal experience based on someone who spent a lot of time with people who eventually spiraled down the QAnon rabbit hole
QAnon, that is another interesting rabit hole with nothing to envy to medieval obscurantism...
Sometimes I think they know fully what is about to happen and they are doing everything in their power to subvert the timeline while hedging that they will not be successful. It’s going to be dark days, particularly for the U.S. but if you can stand in your integrity through it and come out the other side the reward is potentially beautiful and liberating for the entire planet.
I feel similarly….
I guess it’s because Industrial capitalism is structurally cynical and programmed on a scarcity mindset. When you add to that the often “quoted fact” that the carrying capacity of earth is thought to be 1.5 billion and histrionically Armageddon is programmed into the Anthropocene, that people respond much better to simpler stories than complex factual relationships even while their bodies might know better, then you get a recipe for Orwellian sagas.
There is no non painful way through transformation and we are fully in one now. So the cultural babble creates toxic bubbles which reduce much of the social bodies of individuals into nervous system reactions to non-contextual dangers with no actual risk of present attack. The last 70 years of movies, marketing and attention misuse as daily practice has brought western cultures especially the USA to be unable to discern and to quick to react into conflict without awareness. There are other components but those are just a few that are being used to steer hegemonic practice and instill fear and lack of consideration.
I can only agree (while the point was not to answer but just ask questions). I have most of the answers to these questions myself. And you are right scarcity mindset, cynicism, everyone in their mind no one in their bodies, the ANS doing its work trending towars sympathetic addiction, stories layered over stories etc
My heart and nervous system get pretty shredded and scattered by that many “whys”. So I reach out and “respond”. What is the sending going on? Does staying with the trouble of so many kinds, scales, layers and frequencies allow new collective and small group capacity building?
Personally what does that list of whys do with and without you?
Sitting with the discomfort is itself an embodied practice. If the nervous system is activated, it is because of fear and lack of trust in the process. Moving too quickly to solutions is a form of cognitive bypass — the same unconscious habit that created the problem in the first place. The body knows. The question is whether we can stay with what it knows long enough to let something new emerge.
We must face reality and feel the grief (which is continual in these times if your eyes are open) to come into connection with ourselves, with life itself, and therefore to come to know in a very real way what it really takes to do the capacity building you are talking about, and for what purpose. One of those capacities we need to build is the ability to look unflinchingly at the reality of our times and be able to be with the pain without overwhelming our nervous systems. This is the only way we become empowered agents, able to respond to what is actually happening, able to choose our actions, able to connect to purpose, able to ask the question, “who do I want to be given the reality?” Once you know the answers to these questions (and others) and sit with the pain, the next steps reveal themselves. You are transformed in the process.
I see that too. And yet it seems to be so for out for many. The somatization of the process, seeking answers into a larger intelligence and not just our limited and biased cognitive intel. And, as everything is unfolding in perfection, somehow, ignorance and denial are also part of it, despite our desires for it to be different. What a paradox. Makes for a good story though!
As usual, always a delight to find you here Penny!